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The Voice
post Sep. 24, 2006. 12:35 PM
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I know that this has been around since world war one, but I just had to bring it up. Upon accidently typing in the wrong thing on google, I founde many different articles about experiments the government is doing with prisoners. What do you think?
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post Sep. 25, 2006. 11:14 AM
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its wrong. they are fucking human beings whether they are criminals or not. that would be violating human rights.
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post Sep. 25, 2006. 04:57 PM
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The sad part is that some of them actually volunteer. Mostly if they have a life sentence or are going to be executed.
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post Sep. 25, 2006. 05:29 PM
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It can be permissible.

If you are a criminal, you are a menace to society and must be taken care of. That is self defence. And if we need to protect ourselves from you enough, might as well make you useful while we do it.
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post Sep. 25, 2006. 06:29 PM
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Well most prisoners do take it up the butt in prison.....
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post Sep. 27, 2006. 04:01 PM
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i think it is wrong. I am against it.. thats why i love canada cause they do not have those things.
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post Sep. 27, 2006. 04:06 PM
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What the hell were you searching in Google?

And you're being too vague. Just observing someone's behavior is considered a psychological experiment. What kind of experiments are performed? Cruel ones, safe ones, what?

QUOTE(The Voice @ Sep. 25, 2006. 07:57 PM) [snapback]4343[/snapback]

The sad part is that some of them actually volunteer. Mostly if they have a life sentence or are going to be executed.


Well if they give consent, then what's the problem? Lots of noncriminals are involved in scientific research as well.

If they are experimented on unwillingly, then that's much different.
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post Sep. 27, 2006. 04:08 PM
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Prisinor expirements? well... better than us than a monkey. Damn monkeys are funny.
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post Sep. 27, 2006. 05:45 PM
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ur an idiot sidd
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post Sep. 30, 2006. 04:49 AM
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If the prisoner volunteers, I think it's okay. People outside of prison volunteer, so why shouldn't they?
But if they're being forced to undertake these experiments, it's wrong. It violates basic human rights.
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post Oct. 2, 2006. 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(within-temptation @ Sep. 27, 2006. 09:45 PM) [snapback]6500[/snapback]

ur an idiot sidd


You won't look quite as ignorant either if you simply add two extra letters to "ur".

Prisoner experimentation was especially notorious with Hitler and the doctors under Mengele. One doctor is still alive today in Austria, he has not been prosecuted to this day even though there are written records from him well documenting the horrible experiments that were performed during WWII that HE supervised and performed. The current experimentation I don't know much about, though, because for one, it's probably not actually happening beyond torture which is not going to go away no matter how much you cry about it on the internet.
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post Oct. 2, 2006. 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(Cyrrylia @ Sep. 25, 2006. 06:29 PM) [snapback]4383[/snapback]

It can be permissible.

If you are a criminal, you are a menace to society and must be taken care of. That is self defence. And if we need to protect ourselves from you enough, might as well make you useful while we do it.


well it kinda depends on the criminal. someone who stole a car or whatever is basically in the total institution to re-socialize them. It seems almost the opposite, but that is the main focus in prisons. Most of the time, it probably doesn't work, but eh...

If someone is on death row or whatever, then hell, why not. they are going to die anyways eventually. And them volunteering like that..shoot, I would probably do the same thing. If I was going to die, at least my life was worth something, except draining tax dollars to feed my face before they pump me full of drugs and kill me.
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post Oct. 3, 2006. 12:44 AM
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Indeed! Experimentation, is essential, and most preferable.Results ascertained towards the beautification of mankind are tantamount. Conflicting interests, when in recognition of the individual versus society concur, proving most formidable, and entirely troublesome to many minds. However, the derrogative and often beligerant connotations blatantly splayed open, through the alias 'criminal' is what proves inhibiting for the accused, and most mitigating for the society the deviant dwelled within. This is where communal enterprise, concerning security,and protection from the deranged is imperative. Whereby, circumstances such as 'research' for the sake of humanity,and its progress becomes addictive, and in the case of the prisoner....tolerable.

I do not know why this bothers people. Cause and effect are integral when existing. When persons are no longer aware of limitations, the emergence of endangerment convulses out of the festering wound; A wound,healed through the justice system, which is often a double-edged sword, one that simultaneously ruptures bowels,whilst clotting the blood that gushes from ones butchered orifice.
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post Oct. 3, 2006. 05:23 PM
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They are cruel experiments, but I'm not to sure. I did not read that in depth into it. They were experimenting with new drugs and there were some pretty violent pictures.

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I was doing a homework assignment for my government class. That is how I found it.


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post Oct. 7, 2006. 11:54 AM
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If you are a criminal, you are a menace to society and must be taken care of. That is self defence. And if we need to protect ourselves from you enough, might as well make you useful while we do it.

yeah but some people are actually innocent tht get wrongly sent to prison and end up spending undeserved time for something they didnt do!
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post Oct. 7, 2006. 11:56 AM
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well it kinda depends on the criminal. someone who stole a car or whatever is basically in the total institution to re-socialize them. It seems almost the opposite, but that is the main focus in prisons. Most of the time, it probably doesn't work, but eh...

If someone is on death row or whatever, then hell, why not. they are going to die anyways eventually. And them volunteering like that..shoot, I would probably do the same thing. If I was going to die, at least my life was worth something, except draining tax dollars to feed my face before they pump me full of drugs and kill me.


Okay.
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post Oct. 7, 2006. 09:45 PM
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Wow, whatever happened to people just not caring?
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post Jan. 22, 2007. 12:57 PM
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Well I think it's wrong to do this, but I really would like them to experiment on child molestors and other big criminals laugh.gif

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post Jan. 22, 2007. 04:16 PM
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I think if you volunteer for it, sure why not. You chose to do so, so I don't think that is wrong,

BUT, if they force you to, then no. I think that's completely wrong. They are humans to, and should not be forced to do such a thing. Weather they have commited a crime or not, they are also humans.
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post Jan. 22, 2007. 07:08 PM
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isn't it optional? Isn't there that whole deal if they opt for it they can get out ealier. Clockwork Orange. In the end i don't really care, as long as they don't force the prisonors which would breach cruel and unusal punishment it's their life. Besides it lets us play god, when someone asks why did she die of that disease instead of a rapeist, we can say look, we did kill him and now we have a cure. Hooray.
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