Just Curious What you guy's think about Mormons. Please tell me

err friendly race, seriously.....

I mean have you ever heard of mormon rape? mormon murder?

no? cause it never happens!! happy hanukka

Lol true

Honestly, I really dont know where I stand on the whole Mormon thing. I had a friend that was Mormon and she tried to explain it all to me. She even sent me like a Mormon Bible.

The main thing I know is Mormons believe that their Book of Mormon is another scriptural witness of Jesus Christ that is comparable to the Bible or something..

But I dont seem to think there is anything wrong with Mormons at all. Not with the one family I knew of Mormons...they all seemed very nice.

VVell Thanks for your Thought

That Smith guy invented the story himself, it has nothing to do with Jesus
The Mormon religion is just the same as all other religion: fiction

Yeah, actually it has. My grandparents let me borrow this book they own which undercovers a lot of the stuff the Fundimentalist Mormon groups do which generally goes unnoticed because they're so isolated out West.
Here's the first case profiled in the book. It's about the murder of a woman and her infant daughter by her two brothers in law.

haha...joseph smith was a prophet...dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb... XD
i think its alittle silly to believe that the native americans are white...and that they r from israel...

well you guys do know that not all mormons have multiple wives right? while it is a fact associated with their religion, it is not the fundamental element and does not hold true across the board.

They did, and many fundamentalist sects of the religion still practice polygamy.

I saw a family of them at the beach once. I wanted their hats.

wow, dont you just know everything.
GTFO

im Kelsey and im a Mormon and we believe in jeasus god and the holly ghost Joseph smith was a prophet just like adim and mosses and all those other people........... if they had prophets than why don't we need them now?


sorry about my bad spelling

is that guys name really morman

I'm only morman on sundays.

STFU
An angel told Smith were some golden tablets were (yeah right). Smith found these damned tablets in the woods (yeah right), translated them with a stone that he also found in the same box with the tablets (yeah right). This ought to be a Testament (in the USA? How did people there know Jesus? )
I say he made up the whole story, like any other 'prophet'

i just think that its kind of strange that some people really believe that god told him to read the other plate out of the hat and it was a different story...how can people believe that thats right???
but its no problem for me if other people belive that...

I have respect for Mormons. I could never go without having caffeine in my system.

lol when my dad was in the army a jeep fliped oer on a morman guy and when they were cutting off his clothes later when he got back and was fixed up he was terified cuz they cut off his underwear...apparently like jews have the hats mormans have underwear

Very true, but many Muslim extremists blow themselves up, but that doesn't make all Muslims bad people. Unless there is something blatantly wrong and/or harmful about a religion as a whole, it's impossible to make a widespread judgment about its followers.

i dont go to curch at all so i dont care

I don't really know much about them.

Ummm... Mormons weird me out. I'm certain that they're nice people and all, they just kind of creep me out. Then again, I'm sure Christians do that to people also...

Anyways, from a Christian perspective the religion of Mormonism is bogus. They say they believe in the Bible, but considering that the Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible in numerous and various places they believe the the Book of Mormon is authoritative on matters that contradict. Considering the Joesph Smith a) made up what he eventually turned into Mormonism or hallucinated all of it and was mentally unstable, I'm not really going to trust it.

It also irks me that Mormons are required to witness about their faith. Whereas Christians are encouraged to share their faith because they love their neighbors, the Mormons are required to witness in order to get into heaven.

That leads to the main difference between Christians and Mormons. While Mormons will initially claim that they believe the same things as Christians, the fact of the matter is that they believe there are things that a person has to do in order to reach heaven. Christians believe that there is nothing that a person can do to get into heaven, and that it is Christ's shed blood that covers their inequities and allows them to be in the presence of God.

It's the same with the Bible, pal
It's made up or the different authors had some rather ridiculous hallucinations.
There's no other explanation for what's in that book.

Those that blow them selfs up aren't even muslim lol... They just commeted a sin of suicide

I don't mean to go way off the topic of Mormonism, but that isn't true about the Bible. At least not the key doctrines in the New Testament. Within a year of Christ's death there were over 500 eyewitnesses proclaiming that they had seen Him return from the dead. A hallucination is something that is specific to a single person, and it's impossible for that many people to have the same hallucination in that short of an amount of time.

I saw Jesus in my room last night.
Am I an eyewitness now?
Where does this 'fact' come from? Who says there were 500 eyewitnesses?
And please don't refer to Christ with 'Him', 'him' will do it.

Wow... that's just horrible. Of course I realise not all of them are like that and there are extremists in every religion, but that was incredibly disturbing.

I don't really feel as if I know enough about Mormons to judge them yet. So I don't really have an opinion.

FOR FUCKS SAKE.

Of course believers are going to refer to Him as Him, because we worship Him. Who are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't believe. Again I say, why can't you be tolerant? It's people like you that make me ashamed to be who I am. It's people like you that can reduce me to tears because of what you say. It's people like you who me feel scared when I'm walking in or out of church. It's people like you who make my life horrible.

I'm sorry if me capitalizing the name of a person whom I greatly respect annoys you. I honestly don't care if anyone else capitalizes the pronouns referring to people they respect, I just do it because it reminds me of the respect which I, personally, owe Christ.

As for the previous comment? You are right, I don't think any of the early history books give a number on the witnesses (that number is given in the Bible, and you are correct that it cannot be given as proof). However, Josephus' works clearly refer to Christ as a historical figure, and the fact that Christians were proclaiming that He had risen from the dead. He was not a Christian himself, and thought the Christians were pretty much crazy.

Besides him, there are numerous early church-history documents outside of the Bible that support the large amount of witnesses, but I suppose you could say those are also un-reliable.

And as for the Old Testament of the Bible - it is, simply put, the most historically accurate ancient document around.

Yes, there are some historical facts in the Bible, which have been confirmed using other sources.
And yes, Jesus existed, that has been confirmed too. I, as a historian, am interested in that man. The stories, written by Luke, Matt, John and Marc are NOT historical. They describe Jesus' life, but wrapped in a lot of fiction. He was a special person, I don't deny that. I see him as the Mother Teresa of that time. He helped a lot of people with their problems. He had adversaries, of course. He refused to obey the Romans and their Gods, thus he got punished and died on the cross, like all criminals. The end. All the rest is pure fantasy. Walking on water? Healing the lame? Resurrection? Don't make me laugh. It's as unrealistic as Harry Potter. I enjoy reading the Bible, as a work of fiction. It's a novel, nothing more. Yes there are historical elements in it, like there are in Star Trek too.

Well, I hate to rain on the, "Jesus was just a good person" parade, but how can you believe that? If he wasn't really God incarnate, than he was either a) crazy or a total liar. He fervently claimed that He was the son of God, and if He wasn't than he was either a really great liar or a totally crazy guy.

Crazy in a good way then. Everybody can claim that he is the son of God.
He was unhappy with the Roman way of thinking, and their religion, so he came up with a new one. To give people hope, to have something to hold on to. And it worked, look where we are now! Jesus still lives in our minds, just like his 'father'. God is a psychological construction created by humans, and that started with Jesus. The whole concept was created then, along with the 'soul', 'heaven' and 'hell'. I think it's one of the best things that can be taught to children, really! So that there will be no evil, no lies, no death. But when I'll tell about Jesus to my children, I will inform them that what they are about to hear, is not based on reality

So you have no moral problem with people lying?

Don't you ever lie?
It's part of us. We all want the best for ourselves, and if this includes not telling how it really is, then it has to go that way.
What is important is education: our parents teach us that lying is wrong.

Wait, I'm kind of confused. Of course I lie, I'm just as bad as everyone else is. But are you saying that lying is a bad thing, and we should try to do it as little as possible?

There's a fundementalist mormon 'colony' in a town in my province called 'Bountiful'. The community pracitices polygamy, which is illegal under Canadian law (Not a lot is done about this though, as the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms stands in the way). When the girls of the community reach sexual maturity, they drop out of school and start having families. Anyway, the population of the community is around 1000 people. There must be a shitload of imbreeding going on.

Anyway, there was a mormon (not fundemantalist) kid in my math class. He was a nice kid. Personally, I don't believe in Mormonism, as I am part Native American, and I don't believe my ancestors sailed here from Israel.

If you are not selfish, then you realize that by lying, you can harm other people, so yes, you should try to do it as little as possible.
If you are a selfish prick: go on, lie your ass off!
lol

I thought the title said morons..

I knew you would say that lying was bad, but why is it bad? Just because it hurts others? Please, if you support the theory that there is no God in the universe you should be hurting other people as much as you like so that you can be the fittest and survive.

lets see mormons...are nice an but mann they got some wierd beliefs an their heaven is like a mario land

Just because he doesn't believe in God doesn't mean he can't be a nice person.

because you are one

okay well i think mormon stuff is bullshit. First off they are basing eveything they beilve in off of a book unburied from the ground, second all that different realms and stuff arnt even in the bible and supposedly the john guy wrote the book of mormon based off god or whatever speaking to him. RETAREDDDD

Mormons arnt piligimest...at all! i would know im one.

Mormon.

haha mormons cant read what we are saying.lol

As for the religion itself and its beliefs, I'd have to look into it a lot more but it definitely seems way too conservative for me to live that way. There are far too many restrictions, especially on an adolescent's life.

My aunt and her daughters are Mormons, and they live a generally peaceful life. They're caring people and very family-oriented. When they lived here in New York (they moved to Arizona like 5 years ago) I used to go to church with them and do prayer nights. Instead of wine and those nasty bread discs there were broken pieces of loaf bread and water. It's definitely a pleasant way of life, but my personal beliefs and personality would never allow me to convert.

Ok, so first of all, if you're going to bash mormons, you might as well bash every other organized religion out there. No matter what they believe in.
Everyone (well, hopefully everyone) who're involved in a religion probably do it because it's what they personally believe in and it makes them happy...so if it's making them happy, then why the fuck should we care? Is it bothering you, personally? Probably not.
Religion is always a touchy subject, but personally, I don't think it matters. YOU not agreeing with their beliefs is YOUR problem, not theirs.

I'm a mormon and anyone caught trying to practice polygamy(plural marriage) is excommunicated from our church, the harshest punishment we can give. Technically plural marriage is illegal, so anyone practicing plural marriage is really commiting adultery. Our church has not practiced plural marriage since 1890. Only 10% of all chuch members before that practiced plural marriage.

Joseph Smith did not make that stuff up. The native americans that we know today were a people cursed like canaan to have their skin darkened. The white native americans were killed around 400 AD. Joseph Smith did not read anything out of a hat, I don't know where that idea came from, but I've heard it before and it's not true. He translated the Book of Mormon from the gold plates given(more like lended) to him by the angel Moroni.

About that under wear thing, we call tham garments. People get them when they're endowed at about the age 19-21 ussually. Noone is supposed to see them and they are supposed to be the closest clothes/garments to your body. They are for protection and to remind us of our covenants.

The Book of Mormon completely agrees to the bible, both the Old and New Testaments. The BoM is a supplement to them. The reason we testify of Christ is because we want to, not because we have to.
"For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not awise servant; wherefor he receiveth no reward. Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much in righteousness;"(Doctrine & Covenants, Section 58, verse 26-27)
We testify of Christ because we do not want any one to suffer the pain they will if they do not repent. this is exampled in Mosiah chapter 28, verse 3(in the BoM). Jesus did suffer for everyone, but we do have to do stuff. Everyone receives an immortal body after the second coming. that is what we call immortality. Eternal Life is living with God(our Heavenly Father) in our immortal bodies. To haveEternal Life we need to repent and follow his commandments. all of which are pretty easy to follow.

all the mrmon girls at my school dress like they r constipated