so i was talking to my friend jackie about this "hot" topic.

i was slapped around as a child and hit and what not and i believed i turned out quite fine. if i didnt get slapped around and crap like that i would have turned out a completely diffrent person. im not going to " beat" my kids, but if they deserve to get smacked and or spanked then they are going to get it.
my kids arent going to be those annoying kids that yell and complain in public. they are going to be "good" kids. they will respect their elders and all that crap.

lulz

I talking about this and raising kids in general.I said that I will make my kids behave.No matter what,they will not be those complaining brats I see everywhere.

Though I don't want them to be pussies that are too afraid to do anything without asking permission.

Fred says:

Beating= bad
Discipline= good

ya, my parents hit me when i was little when i disobeyed them, but when i think about (like 3three3 said) i would have been a diffrent person. i would probably be injecting heroin or sniffing crack.

Hell even now, i cant say "no" to my parents.

exaclty. i expect my kids to fuck up from time to time. some of the times even if it is kinda serious i will let it slide (especially if ive been through the same thing) i will just tell them about my experience when it happened to me so they can learn from it. but if it happens agian


*POW*

Only recently I've had the courage to stand against my parents.But my dad's scrary.He's like 195cm tall and he's just a big guy.And allways yelling,poor man's going deaf listening to his god damn spanish study cds.

well, i was never beaten and i was a really good kid. actually, im getting to be a pretty shitty person these days because my dads been being so mean lately. really messing with kids is NOT acceptable, because theyre just kids and theyre too dumb to know. if theyre being brats, then just tell them no and deprive them of what theyre screaming for. no need to hit.

i don't care who you are or what a kid has done there is absolutly NO reason to ever hit a kid cause they'll remeber what you did and will never love as much

Well there has to be some raising violence.Grab their hair or something.My mom used to that.It keeps the kid quiet.

Whenever i even try to go against what my parents say, i just remember how many times they were right.

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lmfao im pretty sure me and my mom are best friends and she would hit me/spank me back in the day. hell she threw this big ass glass vase at me and fucked up my ankle like two weeks ago. but i know that i was in the wrong and the only reason i get over shit like that is because i know that no matter what she always has my back and is there for me.

But they are not allways right.I mean your...how old are you?

Even if they are right,learning from an experience is more effective than listening to your parents going on and on and on...

Honestly, it never worked for me when my parents spanked me - it just pissed me off and made me act out more. Physical pain didn't phase me, and because of that, I'll probably never spank my kids if I ever have any (which in itself is unlikely, haha). I feel like there are more effective methods that don't involve me lifting a finger, haha.

I guess it just depends on personal experience that determines what you think will work with your kids.

being nice when your a child and then being mean when you grow up is a bad plan

i will beat my kids with a toaster


lol nah i wont but i will spank them or embarress the shit out of them in public and later tell them "thats why you dont say fuck"

im 16. My parent sonc eotld me "dont hang out with that group of people, they are no good" i didnt listen to them, and within a month i had the owner of a house drag me to my house and told my parents i had broken a window, when infact the "friends" i was with broke it.


there was once a a guy that said. "i could tell you that honey taste sweet, or you could taste the honey. i told that to my dad when he was pissed at me, and he said

could also tell you putting your hand in a fire will burn, or you could do it yourself.

Whenever my mother hit me, I only lost respect for her, making it harder for her to discipline me. But I am a good child, I'm not into drugs or anything.

To fredman555 (I don't want to make quote tree)

I'm not saying they're allways wrong.Many times they have the experience to know better but not allways.These things are case sensitive.

This is quickly turning into a parenting thread.Better get back on topic.

I'm glad my parents disciplined me as a child, I may have hated it when I was younger but if they didn't I would probably be a huge fuck up right now, it made me make the right choices. I could be a crack-head right now or a drug dealer(considering the people I know and met) but my parents taught me whats right and whats wrong.

i didnt loose respect for my dad. i respected him because back then i didnt know nearly a quarter of what he did. he just helped get me on the right path.

but there are times when he went out of line. like when i got home and i was stoned. he literally beat. punches and all that. it sucked. but i never came home high agian lol.

It should never get that far.When I get kids one day(with Emma Watson please) and if they get home stoned I would propably make them just go to bed.And not make a fool out of yourself.Then in the morning explain that I don't want to see you stoned again,not at home.

whenever i acted bad in public, my grandma would pinch me in the armpit, it hurt like fucking hell

So then they'd just do it other places, and not come home that night.

Hitting your kids isn't that bad. My parents never hit me (or at least not any time I remember) but I think I can expect to hit my kids a couple times when they're acting like assholes.

Seriously, what are you going to do if your kids are getting really pissed off because they want something you can't give them? I'd take my belt off and leave them mentally scarred for the rest of their life. Nah I'm kidding, I'd just beat their ass.

No,they should find a place to crash.Shurely you know how irritating wated teenagers are?Especially when they try to act sober.And like I said,if they get home,just head to bed and not act stupid.

The only time I got hit by my mom was actually a slap, when I misused "a" and "an" in a Matthew Henson Project.

I'd just like to bring up a Lloyd deMause quote.


What do you think this means? I interpret it as, if you abuse your children, they will in turn abuse theirs because it's what they know, what is familiar to them. It doesn't matter if they know it's wrong, they'll probably still end up doing it subconsciously unless they try to break the cycle.

My parents never touched me, save a few spankings, and look how I turned out.

AMAZING, that's how.

well ive never been hit but ive been told when my mom and aunt were growing up my grandparents "punished" my aunt and she turned out fine and they didn't "punish" my mom and she got pregnant at 17 so it does the child good

anybody sympathizing for kids "no kid deserves to be hit" needs to get socked in the face a few times themselves.
sometimes, kids DO need a beating. Ok, not a "beating". Not even a fist to the face. Just, you know, some force.

We have way too many brat kids running around today who think they are better than everyone else and do obnoxious things just because they can, dancing like sluts at the age of 12 and such. Damn kids need a good beating, lemme tell you.

I've seen kids that deserve a beating - true definition of the phrase "Satan spawn"; swearing at the parents, violent, argumentative - kids that need a whole lot of discipline.

My view on this "hot issue" is kind of muddled - I'm not exactly sure what I believe. I suppose debate and reading other people's comments can help me figure my opinion out - that's what's so great about these forums.

Anyways, I think that children deserve discipline, but that the parent who disciplines their child needs to make sure - afterwards - that their child knows that that he or she doesn't hate them or anything like that. I also think that parents should never ever hit their children out of anger. Before a parent disciplines his or her child, he or she needs to carefully examine what the proper disciplinary act should be, and what his or her motive is for the discipline.

Overall I think that spankings are fine, but beatings are not. Is there ever a need to use a closed fist? Honestly, a closed fist doesn't discipline - it injures. An opened-handed slap causes temporary pain, but a closed-fist punch can injure.

Yeah, that's kind of my opinion, but if you differ from me than use your persuasion and convince me otherwise - my opinion is kind of fluid at the moment. Not exactly fluid; just not solid. Jello-like.

Beating kids? Like knocking them out?

There's a big difference between physical discipline and beatings. Kids need to be trained, and most children aren't capable of accepting groundings or incentives until later youth. Our horribly behaved idiot "free spirited" generation is a testament to this.

It does nothing but cause psycological damage.
Seriously, it's been about two years since I've been hit and I'm still trying to get through the emotional pain.

My mom use to hit me all the time and thats something that i'll never forget and I'm still learning how to cope.

Hitting is no form of discipline. As a parent, it only shows how you lack basic communication skills.

Thats all I have to say.

Sometimes, violence is the only way with evil kids.

im not mean, just fucked up in my mind because of the VERBAL beatings and mind twisters my dad gave me. actually, id rather be beaten than to be mentally beaten like ive been

I wouldn't take that shit, I'd do something about that. I don't know if it'd be beating or verbal or whatever else, but something would be done.

An unconcious child behaves much better. >:D

But really, the use of dispointment should be used instead if violence. Violence just creats fear, which may branch out into othe problems.

That's ridiculous. My mum used to give me a whack when I was naughty and I still love her.

She did however, deprive me of what I was screaming for once and I've never forgiven her.


ROFL, Stotchy.
Oh, but then you wrecked it.


You go, dusty. Kids are fucking assholes these days. Heck, half the little shits I see running around in the mall I want to kick in the teeth, and I don't even own them.


Not when there's a brick wall you can ram their face into.

Sometimes my dad got over-excited. The cunt.

I got beaten as a kid. I still love my mom the same and I think I turned out better beaten than I would have if I wasn't. That I don't like my dad that much has nothing to do with being beaten.


They are! I babysit this girl, wich dresses like a slut, won't brush her teeth, teases her older(!) sister untill she cries and yells at her parents. She just turned 10.
Her parents are not beating her. They give her everything she wants.

My little brother likes to grab me around the legs as I'm walking and wrap his whole body around to trip me over.

I gave him a swift kick to the face and he hasn't done it since.

BEATING WORKS!

Doesn't work at my brother (11) and sister (13).
I once kicked my brother between his legs when he did that, it didn't even hurt!

i will never hit my kids but am not going to spolie them either that makes brats

i would with out a doubt have that kid behaving for me in a day or two if i was taking care of him. how you ask. i would make it clear to the kid that im bigger then him and i wont take his shit. so if he tries. then i will prove it. i will scare the shit out of him. i would pick him up and throw him. on something soft like a cough if hes lucky. or lock him in a closet cuz that would be funny. and if that doesnt work. then i would use my belt to whoop the kid.

My Dad used to smack me if I was bad when I was little. It didn't do me any harm, but it taught me to respect elders.


I still find it hard to ask my parents if I can have something or for permission if I want to go out. I don't know why, but for me it's just hard to ask for things and it doesn't feel right.

Yeah I know what you mean.But when you start talking you find it easy.

I'm not going to beat my kids, but I will discipline them.
As of lately, I've noticed a lot kids (ages ranging from 3-10ish) that have been extremely annoying. They yell and run around and think they're all that. No way will I let my kids be that way. They'll be sweet, polite, and know right from wrong.

thats true. my dad was a huge military man. so he was anal about everything. but once you start talking about going out and things and like and the most important part is do be honest. even if it does end up back it could be worse. he could find out you lied and then the shit will hit the fan.

theres beating..
and then theres disciplining, BIG DIFFERENCE!

When I was four I got slapped on the hand for throwing my cat at the wall, and digging graves for all of my beanie babies (which got stolen later.)

I don't think I'll hit my kids. I can't see that happening.

i agree. but some people dont see the diffrence.