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Link Of Blue
Personaly I doubt there are little green men flying around in circular space craft. I do think there is a possibility of some kind of cell living on another planet, but it's a slight possibility. What do you think?
anima
To this, I only have one reply: the Drake equation (and its associated cartoon).
dana
i just don't see it happening
YellowyEyes
QUOTE(Link Of Blue @ Mar. 11, 2008. 03:06 PM) [snapback]846065[/snapback]

Personaly I doubt there are little green men flying around in circular space craft. I do think there is a possibility of some kind of cell living on another planet, but it's a slight possibility. What do you think?


Well, obviously alien life doesn't have to mean little green men flying around in space. That is the kindergarden level view of extraterrestrial life.

And yes, I do believe that there is life outside of Earth, considering the size of the universe.
Link Of Blue
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QUOTE(Link Of Blue @ Mar. 11, 2008. 03:06 PM) [snapback]846065[/snapback]

Personaly I doubt there are little green men flying around in circular space craft. I do think there is a possibility of some kind of cell living on another planet, but it's a slight possibility. What do you think?


Well, obviously alien life doesn't have to mean little green men flying around in space. That is the kindergarden level view of extraterrestrial life.

And yes, I do believe that there is life outside of Earth, considering the size of the universe.

If there is any, I think we'll only find some kind of cell.
zomgit'smichael
nope
Smosh181
aliens r real jk but u never know
3three3
i think that there are aliens out there. it would rather egotistical the believe that we are the only sentient beings in the entire universe. the universe is uncomprehendable on how huge it is.

we may never see them in our lifetime but i believe that there other inteligent races out there.

we are more likely to find a non sentient alien out there such as a cell of some sort. and i think i will be alive when that happens.
"Boxman"
QUOTE(anima @ Mar. 12, 2008. 01:26 AM) [snapback]846277[/snapback]

To this, I only have one reply: the Drake equation (and its associated cartoon).

Thanks a ton for that site.Those comics are great.

I'll add my opinion later.
Useful idiot
QUOTE(anima @ Mar. 12, 2008. 12:26 AM) [snapback]846277[/snapback]
To this, I only have one reply: the Drake equation (and its associated cartoon).


Interesting stuff.
I do believe that there is other life in the universe, considering the fact that the universe is undescribably big and relying to the Drake equation, which seems logical.

I do think we're more likely to find a small cell than a sentient being, but I'm not saying it's not possible that there are sentient beings, baring Darwin's evolution theory in mind.
donkeypunch
I would seem impossible that there couldn't be other life out there in the universe.

Just so you guys know, aliens don't have to be intelligent life to be consider aliens.

I'm sure the first "life" we will find will be a microbe of some sort.
Smosh181
i actually think they r out there
Gara Of The Funk
DAMN MEZKINS!
Link Of Blue
QUOTE(Gara Of The Funk @ Mar. 12, 2008. 12:34 PM) [snapback]847288[/snapback]

DAMN MEZKINS!

Wrong kind of alien dude...
Miss.Shrammer
If there were beings as smart as us (people say that they're one s who are smarter than us) don't you think they would have communicated with us by now? Now, don't go saying that those UFO sightings are proof, because they're not..

Eh, that's just me..
anima
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If there were beings as smart as us (people say that they're one s who are smarter than us) don't you think they would have communicated with us by now? Now, don't go saying that those UFO sightings are proof, because they're not..

Eh, that's just me..

Nothing can travel faster than light, remember?
The universe is bigger than 20 light years. That's 20 years for a signal to travel.
EM waves decrease following a 1/r^2 decay. That means, if a wave travels 20 meters, its intensity will have decreased by a factor of 400 over those 20 meters. That means that the emitter of such a signal would have to be absolutely HUGE. And we wouldn't be able to reply back.
Link Of Blue
QUOTE(anima @ Mar. 12, 2008. 06:18 PM) [snapback]848119[/snapback]

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If there were beings as smart as us (people say that they're one s who are smarter than us) don't you think they would have communicated with us by now? Now, don't go saying that those UFO sightings are proof, because they're not..

Eh, that's just me..

Nothing can travel faster than light, remember?
The universe is bigger than 20 light years. That's 20 years for a signal to travel.
EM waves decrease following a 1/r^2 decay. That means, if a wave travels 20 meters, its intensity will have decreased by a factor of 400 over those 20 meters. That means that the emitter of such a signal would have to be absolutely HUGE. And we wouldn't be able to reply back.

But that would mean all those UFO sightings and pictures are fake because they couldv'e sent a message if they were that close.
anima
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But that would mean all those UFO sightings and pictures are fake because they couldv'e sent a message if they were that close.

Didn't you realize that all UFO sightings were fake? 99% of the time, it's seriously obvious.
3three3
QUOTE(anima @ Mar. 12, 2008. 05:18 PM) [snapback]848119[/snapback]

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If there were beings as smart as us (people say that they're one s who are smarter than us) don't you think they would have communicated with us by now? Now, don't go saying that those UFO sightings are proof, because they're not..

Eh, that's just me..

Nothing can travel faster than light, remember?
The universe is bigger than 20 light years. That's 20 years for a signal to travel.
EM waves decrease following a 1/r^2 decay. That means, if a wave travels 20 meters, its intensity will have decreased by a factor of 400 over those 20 meters. That means that the emitter of such a signal would have to be absolutely HUGE. And we wouldn't be able to reply back.


exactly and if we do get something that is from an alien source we might not even know what it is due to the deteriorated message.
anima
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exactly and if we do get something that is from an alien source we might not even know what it is due to the deteriorated message.

Deteriorated message? More like "background noise". The signal itself is aliased, but still functional. Had there been a destruction of a light signal, we wouldn't be able to determine the inner make-up of different planets through their radiation spectra.
3three3
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exactly and if we do get something that is from an alien source we might not even know what it is due to the deteriorated message.

Deteriorated message? More like "background noise". The signal itself is aliased, but still functional. Had there been a destruction of a light signal, we wouldn't be able to determine the inner make-up of different planets through their radiation spectra.

ok i see what you mean.


loopus9
I think there is some kind of cell on like Mars or somthing.
ben_g_
i believe in alliens
stickofglue
QUOTE(Link Of Blue @ Mar. 11, 2008. 02:06 PM) [snapback]846065[/snapback]

Personaly I doubt there are little green men flying around in circular space craft. I do think there is a possibility of some kind of cell living on another planet, but it's a slight possibility. What do you think?


I think u are right about the green men they are orange duh
xxetxx
i think there is other life out there besides humans...not necessarily little green mean or flying objects. but its hard to believe that there isn't other life because there's a whole freaken universe out there
Duckie3
yah, theres got to be a planet like earth out there that can support life
Useful idiot
If we would find some kind of life on another planet, a cel possibly, this could contribute a lot to Darwin's evolution theory. If we manage to stay in contact with the cel that is.

And then again it would take quite a lot of time for something to evolve, but if this does happen, they could proof creationism wrong with evidence that no one can deny.
Hendo
The universe is too big not to have other life forms out there....complex or not
missyd
QUOTE(Hendo @ Mar. 15, 2008. 03:49 AM) [snapback]851179[/snapback]

The universe is too big not to have other life forms out there....complex or not

exactly what i've thought since i was a little child.
Totally Smoshin'
It's plausible.
anima
Two things:
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If we would find some kind of life on another planet, a cel possibly, this could contribute a lot to Darwin's evolution theory. If we manage to stay in contact with the cel that is.

Darwin's theory of evolution can be proved simply, by observing a slow mutation of a specie. We've already seen some: the saprophyte group of specie came to existence quite quickly, out of a need for them to adapt to the new human-based world. Saprophytes are the descendents of lynxes (and fox), wolves and rats: cats, dogs and rats. A sub-specie was born out of these animals who, instead of hunting their food, built a relationship around human beings.

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And then again it would take quite a lot of time for something to evolve, but if this does happen, they could proof creationism wrong with evidence that no one can deny.

No science can ever be undeniable: all you have to do is deny the principal axioms of the said science. Creationism does that a lot.
OhHowClichexx
wasn't there a planet found light years, or galaxies away that has similar conditions to earth? It would be so amazing to find other life forms out there in the universe.

If there are other life forms, I wonder if they know we exist etc. Its a strange thing to think about.
anima
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wasn't there a planet found light years, or galaxies away that has similar conditions to earth? It would be so amazing to find other life forms out there in the universe.

If there are other life forms, I wonder if they know we exist etc. Its a strange thing to think about

There was. However, remember that because we are an oxygen-nitrogen-carbon based life, does not mean that all life is oxygen-nitrogen-carbon based. Therefore, a planet doesn't need similar conditions.
OhHowClichexx
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wasn't there a planet found light years, or galaxies away that has similar conditions to earth? It would be so amazing to find other life forms out there in the universe.

If there are other life forms, I wonder if they know we exist etc. Its a strange thing to think about

There was. However, remember that because we are an oxygen-nitrogen-carbon based life, does not mean that all life is oxygen-nitrogen-carbon based. Therefore, a planet doesn't need similar conditions.

i know, i was just bringing it up. But going along those lines, if there is life similar to us, such as on that planet, how neat would that be to compare lifestyles and such. They may have found alternative fuel sources, if they even use fuel, and From what I remember, the planet is so far away that it would be nearly impossible to research and find out if there is life? I don't quite remember, ill have to look it up sometime i am not falling asleep at my computer
Ms_Lasexy
I think that there is SOMETHING out there.
When ya think about it, we can't be THE ONLY LIVING THING in all of the planets. Maybe there is a planet out there that we will never discover that has living things on it. I mean they found traces of a possible river on mars...thats gotta mean something right????
anima
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i know, i was just bringing it up. But going along those lines, if there is life similar to us, such as on that planet, how neat would that be to compare lifestyles and such. They may have found alternative fuel sources, if they even use fuel, and From what I remember, the planet is so far away that it would be nearly impossible to research and find out if there is life? I don't quite remember, ill have to look it up sometime i am not falling asleep at my computer

Right now, I really feel like banging my head against the wall in desperation at how the human race in general can be narrow-minded. Why should a specie with a planet similar to us evolve in the same way, right up for us to be able to compare lifestyles? Why should they have the same problem as us? Why would they even be anywhere like us!
Plus, their planet is 4x bigger than Earth, and the only thing similar is the contents of the atmosphere (Visible using a spectrometric analysis of it). And, as far as I'm concerned, we'll never manage to get there. The planet might've been destroyed already (or changed in some way) due to the distance and light travel time.

Seriously, life isn't a "comparison contest". This is what brought racism, remember? comparing races. Now, comparing specie. Imagine the damage it would do.
OhHowClichexx
QUOTE(anima @ Mar. 15, 2008. 11:37 PM) [snapback]852370[/snapback]

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i know, i was just bringing it up. But going along those lines, if there is life similar to us, such as on that planet, how neat would that be to compare lifestyles and such. They may have found alternative fuel sources, if they even use fuel, and From what I remember, the planet is so far away that it would be nearly impossible to research and find out if there is life? I don't quite remember, ill have to look it up sometime i am not falling asleep at my computer

Right now, I really feel like banging my head against the wall in desperation at how the human race in general can be narrow-minded. Why should a specie with a planet similar to us evolve in the same way, right up for us to be able to compare lifestyles? Why should they have the same problem as us? Why would they even be anywhere like us!
Plus, their planet is 4x bigger than Earth, and the only thing similar is the contents of the atmosphere (Visible using a spectrometric analysis of it). And, as far as I'm concerned, we'll never manage to get there. The planet might've been destroyed already (or changed in some way) due to the distance and light travel time.

Seriously, life isn't a "comparison contest". This is what brought racism, remember? comparing races. Now, comparing specie. Imagine the damage it would do.

i said, "or if they even used fuel at all" I didn't say they had the same problem as us. I never said they would be brought up like us or have a similar life style. That is why it would be interesting to see the way they live an function. If the two cultures have nothing to do with eachother, then they don't. If you found alien life, you're telling me you wouldn't look into it? Compare it to how we are? maybe even learn a thing or two from the way they live?

I don't understand why you have to take peoples opinions, twist them into something so that you sound so superior. I wasn't looking for you to smash every one of my statements into the ground.
anima
Next time, define "compare lifestyles". I immediately assume "comparing the way they live with ours", which has led to racism in the past, when people discovered America.
Useful idiot
QUOTE(anima @ Mar. 16, 2008. 03:24 AM) [snapback]852257[/snapback]
Two things:
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If we would find some kind of life on another planet, a cel possibly, this could contribute a lot to Darwin's evolution theory. If we manage to stay in contact with the cel that is.

Darwin's theory of evolution can be proved simply, by observing a slow mutation of a specie. We've already seen some: the saprophyte group of specie came to existence quite quickly, out of a need for them to adapt to the new human-based world. Saprophytes are the descendents of lynxes (and fox), wolves and rats: cats, dogs and rats. A sub-specie was born out of these animals who, instead of hunting their food, built a relationship around human beings.

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And then again it would take quite a lot of time for something to evolve, but if this does happen, they could proof creationism wrong with evidence that no one can deny.

No science can ever be undeniable: all you have to do is deny the principal axioms of the said science. Creationism does that a lot.

You're right it has been proven before, but I do think those who believe in Creationism will start to think twice.

On the other hand they could just say God put that cel or whatever on that planet, but how will they prove its evolution wrong?

I haven't read the Bible, but what does it say about Aliens? Do they exist?
If the Bible says they don't exist, and new life is found on other planets, this will prove the Bible wrong.

schoolcormorant
I believe there is 'alien' life out there.

The universe is so large, that by the coincidence of our planet being X distance from the sun, and that being beneficial to life; the size of the Universe suggests that this could occur again by pure statistical coincidence.
anima
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You're right it has been proven before, but I do think those who believe in Creationism will start to think twice.

Humans cannot think twice. Actually, humans cannot in general think of anything that goes beyond their own narrow-minded point of view. It's well-proven thing: why do you think racism, sexism and discriminations still exist? The old stereotypes still linger.

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On the other hand they could just say God put that cel or whatever on that planet, but how will they prove its evolution wrong?

They can't. Creationism doesn't follow logic, so, in theory, they cannot disprove something that does follow logic. It'd be futile for them to try.

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I haven't read the Bible, but what does it say about Aliens? Do they exist?

The Bible is strictly centered on Earth. However, it does not _forbid_ the creation of other beings.
MisterMarty
nobody can be sure

but its funny to think that theres living things on other planets or galaxies that are debating whether we exist or not XD
anima
QUOTE(MisterMarty @ Mar. 16, 2008. 08:32 PM) [snapback]853412[/snapback]

nobody can be sure

but its funny to think that theres living things on other planets or galaxies that are debating whether we exist or not XD

Will this thread ever stop causing me a sudden urge to smack my head on the table and blow my brain out? Someone should really ban ethnocentrism, sometimes.
Kaitlin!
Humans could be considered aliens if you really think about it.
anima
QUOTE(Kaitlin! @ Mar. 16, 2008. 08:37 PM) [snapback]853422[/snapback]

Humans could be considered aliens if you really think about it.

alius, alia, aliud: (latin) other than. Therefore, one specie cannot consider itself to be alien. However, other species can consider us alien if they ever have a frame of mind suitable to being extrapolationists and procrastinating beasts such as us.
Pookie_
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3three3:
If there were beings as smart as us (people say that they're one s who are smarter than us) don't you think they would have communicated with us by now?

Could you define ''us''?

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anima:
Deteriorated message? More like "background noise". The signal itself is aliased, but still functional. Had there been a destruction of a light signal, we wouldn't be able to determine the inner make-up of different planets through their radiation spectra.

I think we are thinking too much on our level of perception and laws. Maybe we should view things from another corner. How do ants see us? And what about moles? Do they know that there are ''higher'' beings? Do they even notice us? Maybe it's the same with aliens. They see us, but we don't see them.
Maybe aliens, the ones we hear people describing, are living in the 4th density. A density which we can't perceive. When can we speak of alien contact? And when there is alien contact, could you tell others? Would others believe you? Or would you hide it from others, and why would that be?
We are waiting for the signs, but maybe we should search them.
Gondor2222
I also doubt that there are little green aliens and all that other stereotypical idea of aliens.
However, I do believe that there are other life forms, including sentient ones.

I'm sure many of us know the Drake Equation. (If not, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation)

It states the likelyhood of there being other sentient life in the Universe.

It shows that there is about a 1 in about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (about one in one septillion) chance that any given planet has sentient life on it.

Most people take this as evidence that there is no chance of the existance of life in other galaxies.
However, when you think of this, there are actually many, many more planets that one septillion out there in the universe. In fact, there are probably more than 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (one hundred decillion) planets out there. Thus, this makes the chance of sentient life on other planets millions to one.
shadowguy12
The Universe is infinite, so there is bound to be another planet with life in the heavens after many, many light years. Why wouldn't there be?
momo92
Saying that Earth has the only life on it at all is a little conceited don't ya think? With all the planets out there the possibilities of other life is endless. I'm not saying they are little green men that live on Mars. And I do think it's possible that they could be smarter than humans, not like it's much of a challenge. And that whole "If they're so smart, why haven't they talked with us?", Would you want to talk to humans? I think not. I'd ignore this very poor built culture and look for better ones.
TH322
I soooo believe in aliens.
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