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applesrockmorethanyou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4

I thought it was a pretty intresting video.

Personally, I'm Vegetarian, but I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I was just wondering what you all thought about this.
Sopheelovesyou
uh oh. i know it's good and everything, but i am no way going to watch it. i've watched stuff like this many times before.
89mini
that's just as cruel as killing baby seals

and think for the people doing it as well, its just a job. do you think they want to slit throats and have blood cover their faces? but theres demand for it and someones gotta do it.
PATDrules
i've seen this before but not all farms are like that
lennnnnnnnnn
i had to stop.
Sopheelovesyou
this is why we get free range EVERYTHING.
sisao
I only watched it for about 15 sec, but even then I allmost threw up!
applesrockmorethanyou
QUOTE(89mini @ Apr. 5, 2008. 02:02 PM) [snapback]889178[/snapback]

that's just as cruel as killing baby seals


I agree.
kirstensexypants
wow thats horrible blink.gif
perverted_llama
Terrible. I'm a vegetarian, thinking about converting to vegan soon.
lennnnnnnnnn
its horrible and gruesome but i don't think that i could become a vegetarian or a vegan. i don't think that i would last. so good for you guys who are vegetarians
89mini
i don't feel sick watching that video. but the Japaneses dolphin one really makes me sad
Major
I watched all 12 and a half minutes of it (had to find part two like), didn't bother me at all. I know what goes on in farms and slaughterhouses 'cause I was brought up with it all and I'm still in farming now.

That kind of stuff hardly goes on in the UK and if it does it's dealt with severly. These places have DEFRA and the HSE all over them like a rash.
Tortilluh
yeah. so i've watched about a million of those and all that jazz, but my family always has and always will buy free range everything. that's just how we roll.
I don't eat red meat, but i'm definitely not going full veggie.
pennylane3434
Beef Baton.
Gara Of The Funk
made me want some steak

KILL THE ANIMALS!

the bible tellss us to

but not cruely

thats why in arabia they... feed it alot in one day

of its fav food

then kill it the next
SusantheMartian
QUOTE(Gara Of The Funk @ Apr. 5, 2008. 04:14 PM) [snapback]889542[/snapback]

made me want some steak

KILL THE ANIMALS!

the bible tellss us to

but not cruely

thats why in arabia they... feed it alot in one day

of its fav food

then kill it the next

i dont understand why you had to space between the dfferent parts of the sentence but....just because they are fed the day before, that doesnt make the way they are killed cruel or not cruel. the good thing about the seal hunt is that pretty much the only people who really agree with it are the ones doing it. it is a well known issue that many people find unnecessary and want it to stop. this on the other hand is something that almost everyone finds horrible, but dont want to help to stop it because they use meat every day.
89mini
QUOTE(pennylane3434 @ Apr. 5, 2008. 05:08 PM) [snapback]889533[/snapback]

Beef Baton.


luncheon meat truncheon
MisterMarty
okay i am not going to give up meat because whatever i do animals will still be slaughtered and by going vegan i would not really be doing anything to save these animals
perverted_llama
QUOTE(Gara Of The Funk @ Apr. 6, 2008. 02:14 AM) [snapback]889542[/snapback]

made me want some steak

KILL THE ANIMALS!

the bible tellss us to

but not cruely

thats why in arabia they... feed it alot in one day

of its fav food

then kill it the next

OMG! Yeah, i totally forgot getting candy all day and being beheaded the next made everything better! biggrin.gif
alexthakid
QUOTE(MisterMarty @ Apr. 5, 2008. 05:24 PM) [snapback]889560[/snapback]

okay i am not going to give up meat because whatever i do animals will still be slaughtered and by going vegan i would not really be doing anything to save these animals

It's sad, but I agree. There are still going to be billions of people out there eating meat.
youknowyouloveme1124
i know i sound like a little girl but i don't want to watch it i tried to go vegetarian last year and it didn't work because it isn't super healthy not to have certain amounts of protein so i stopped and i know if i watch this it will upset me and i will freak out
applesrockmorethanyou
QUOTE(youknowyouloveme1124 @ Apr. 5, 2008. 05:30 PM) [snapback]889587[/snapback]

i know i sound like a little girl but i don't want to watch it i tried to go vegetarian last year and it didn't work because it isn't super healthy not to have certain amounts of protein so i stopped and i know if i watch this it will upset me and i will freak out


It's fine. I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I just wanted to know what people who did watch this video thought of it.
perverted_llama
QUOTE(alexthakid @ Apr. 6, 2008. 02:28 AM) [snapback]889578[/snapback]

QUOTE(MisterMarty @ Apr. 5, 2008. 05:24 PM) [snapback]889560[/snapback]

okay i am not going to give up meat because whatever i do animals will still be slaughtered and by going vegan i would not really be doing anything to save these animals

It's sad, but I agree. There are still going to be billions of people out there eating meat.

Pff. Weaklings. Worst attitude ever. How can you even say that?
I mean, you can't just give up before you've even started. Ofcourse there will always be people who eat meat, but that doesn't mean you have to. For example, if a child comes up to you, almost dead because he hasn't ate for a week and asks you for some food, would you say no "because there will always be people starving"?
And you would be doing a lot by becoming vegetarian/vegan.

QUOTE(youknowyouloveme1124 @ Apr. 5, 2008. 05:30 PM) [snapback]889587[/snapback]

i know i sound like a little girl but i don't want to watch it i tried to go vegetarian last year and it didn't work because it isn't super healthy not to have certain amounts of protein so i stopped and i know if i watch this it will upset me and i will freak out

You had a bad diet. Just like ALL diets (meat, no meat, whatever) if you don't balance it out, it's unhealthy.
It has been proven that a balanced vegetarian diet is healthier than a balanced meat diet.
ohsnappity!
Ugh, I cannot watch that video again. I watched one a month or two ago, and it literally made me cry.
I'm not vegetarian though. But I definitely don't support that kind of treatment towards animals.
aghh, watching those kinds of videos makes me feel so guilty.
SusantheMartian
QUOTE(ohsnappity! @ Apr. 5, 2008. 04:46 PM) [snapback]889642[/snapback]

Ugh, I cannot watch that video again. I watched one a month or two ago, and it literally made me cry.
I'm not vegetarian though. But I definitely don't support that kind of treatment towards animals.
aghh, watching those kinds of videos makes me feel so guilty.

i feel that way alot about it too. ive actually considered it numerous times but its hard to accomplish if i live with my parents, they buy meat, make something with meat for dinner, well then thats what im eating. i think in a few years it will be easier for me to become vegetarian and theres a good chance i will.
stephjarzab
that is so sick in nearly barfed! that's one of thesickest, cruelest and most inhumane things i have ever seen in my life!

i only wish there was smoething more i could do to stop it. sad.gif
OneWeak
Don't feel guilty. As animals ourselves we're entitled to consume whatever animal that seems appetizing to us. I know I'd never be able to give up chicken myself.

But those farming conditions? Unacceptable, and the hormones they feed those animals are hormones we end up eating ourselves. No wonder American kids grow so fast; when I was in Colombia when I was 12 some kids thought I was like, 20. But something should be done to ensure that the animals go out as "painlessly" as possible.
stephjarzab
QUOTE(SusantheMartian @ Apr. 5, 2008. 04:53 PM) [snapback]889652[/snapback]

QUOTE(ohsnappity! @ Apr. 5, 2008. 04:46 PM) [snapback]889642[/snapback]

Ugh, I cannot watch that video again. I watched one a month or two ago, and it literally made me cry.
I'm not vegetarian though. But I definitely don't support that kind of treatment towards animals.
aghh, watching those kinds of videos makes me feel so guilty.

i feel that way alot about it too. ive actually considered it numerous times but its hard to accomplish if i live with my parents, they buy meat, make something with meat for dinner, well then thats what im eating. i think in a few years it will be easier for me to become vegetarian and theres a good chance i will.

omg that's just liek me. i don't really like meat except for chicken and turkey but really there's not a whole lot i can do when my parents are buying my food. i mean, even if i'm not a vegetarian, it certainly doesn't mean i support this insane crap treatment towards defenseless animals. what they do with the cows? that's SICK!
Major
Turkeys will just kill themselves anyway regardless of how happy/or mistreated they are, they're bloody suicidal. O_o
dana
it doesnt bug me as long as i'm not one of them.
my family buys our own beef from our neighbors.
i still think its all great taasting.
fluer
To those of you who are saying or thinking, "I can't make a difference..." Here's a story for you.

About 100 years ago I was in Dubai.. On the long sandy beach there were millions of starfish stranded on the shore and unable to get back into the water. I saw a man throwing them back in, one at a time. I said to him, "What are you doing, you'll never be able to make a difference." He picked up a starfish and threw it back into the sea and said, "I made a difference to that one."
perverted_llama
QUOTE(fluer @ Apr. 6, 2008. 03:09 PM) [snapback]891004[/snapback]

To those of you who are saying or thinking, "I can't make a difference..." Here's a story for you.

About 100 years ago I was in Dubai.. On the long sandy beach there were millions of starfish stranded on the shore and unable to get back into the water. I saw a man throwing them back in, one at a time. I said to him, "What are you doing, you'll never be able to make a difference." He picked up a starfish and threw it back into the sea and said, "I made a difference to that one."

Nice story smile.gif
but you mean 10, right?
fluer
No, I don't. I'm telling the story thanks.
perverted_llama
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nba185
OH SHIT. I JUST ATE CHICKEN FOR DINNER.

But I still love meat.
NikKi89
THOSE guys should be the one hanging UpsideDown, and Slaughtered ALiVE.

SAY NO TO MEAT!
xElizabethTerror
I've seen this video tens of thousands of times. And with each view, I get sicker and sicker. It's horrible. I'm a former vegan,simply,because of health reasons that pushed me back into the Vegetarian state.
Either way the cruelty pressed on these animals is horrible. It makes you wonder what they didn't even catch on camera.

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nba185
Actually Plants are sorta "mutated" as well. so if you wanna go vegan, go organic.
perverted_llama
QUOTE(nba185 @ Apr. 6, 2008. 04:32 PM) [snapback]891112[/snapback]

Actually Plants are sorta "mutated" as well. so if you wanna go vegan, go organic.

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neenerbeenerx93
I'm okay with vegetarians, it just bothers me when they don't have a reason for being one. Like I know a bunch of people who are vegetarian/vegan and if you ask them why, they become really defensive and say "It's none of your business" or "Why do you care?" it bothers me when people say they are fighting for something when they don't actually know what they are fighting for. Also, being vegan or vegetarian can be harmful. I know a boy and both of his parents are vegan. A couple years ago, he became really really sick, and he had to stay in the hospital for a really long time. He got sick because he had been eating all of the vegan food his parents made and had not been getting enough of the right nutrients from that alone. The doctor told his family that that sort of thing was pretty common in families where the parents are vegetarian/vegan. Now the boy eats meat and he is fine.
perverted_llama
QUOTE(neenerbeenerx93 @ Apr. 6, 2008. 04:45 PM) [snapback]891136[/snapback]

I'm okay with vegetarians, it just bothers me when they don't have a reason for being one. Like I know a bunch of people who are vegetarian/vegan and if you ask them why, they become really defensive and say "It's none of your business" or "Why do you care?" it bothers me when people say they are fighting for something when they don't actually know what they are fighting for. Also, being vegan or vegetarian can be harmful. I know a boy and both of his parents are vegan. A couple years ago, he became really really sick, and he had to stay in the hospital for a really long time. He got sick because he had been eating all of the vegan food his parents made and had not been getting enough of the right nutrients from that alone. The doctor told his family that that sort of thing was pretty common in families where the parents are vegetarian/vegan. Now the boy eats meat and he is fine.

I agree with you that it is lame when people just do it for no reason.. But they soon fall off.

But that story about the boy. It's not because he wasn't eating meat that he felt sick, it's because his parent obviously didn't have a good diet for him. And he'd probably be fine not eating meat, just aslong as he has a balanced vegan/vegetarian diet. And i could argue that story with the millions of kids that get sick and eat meat.

"being vegan or vegetarian can be harmful".. so can being a meat-eater. Ridiculous statement.
neenerbeenerx93
QUOTE(perverted_llama @ Apr. 6, 2008. 09:51 AM) [snapback]891144[/snapback]

QUOTE(neenerbeenerx93 @ Apr. 6, 2008. 04:45 PM) [snapback]891136[/snapback]

I'm okay with vegetarians, it just bothers me when they don't have a reason for being one. Like I know a bunch of people who are vegetarian/vegan and if you ask them why, they become really defensive and say "It's none of your business" or "Why do you care?" it bothers me when people say they are fighting for something when they don't actually know what they are fighting for. Also, being vegan or vegetarian can be harmful. I know a boy and both of his parents are vegan. A couple years ago, he became really really sick, and he had to stay in the hospital for a really long time. He got sick because he had been eating all of the vegan food his parents made and had not been getting enough of the right nutrients from that alone. The doctor told his family that that sort of thing was pretty common in families where the parents are vegetarian/vegan. Now the boy eats meat and he is fine.

I agree with you that it is lame when people just do it for no reason.. But they soon fall off.

But that story about the boy. It's not because he is eating meat that he is fine, it's because his parent obviously didn't have a good diet for him.

And i could argue that story with the millions of kids that get sick and eat meat.

I guess that is true too, and it probably is because his parents weren't giving him a proper diet while being vegan. I don't think his parents are the sharpest knives in the drawer...
perverted_llama
QUOTE(neenerbeenerx93 @ Apr. 6, 2008. 04:53 PM) [snapback]891146[/snapback]

QUOTE(perverted_llama @ Apr. 6, 2008. 09:51 AM) [snapback]891144[/snapback]

QUOTE(neenerbeenerx93 @ Apr. 6, 2008. 04:45 PM) [snapback]891136[/snapback]

I'm okay with vegetarians, it just bothers me when they don't have a reason for being one. Like I know a bunch of people who are vegetarian/vegan and if you ask them why, they become really defensive and say "It's none of your business" or "Why do you care?" it bothers me when people say they are fighting for something when they don't actually know what they are fighting for. Also, being vegan or vegetarian can be harmful. I know a boy and both of his parents are vegan. A couple years ago, he became really really sick, and he had to stay in the hospital for a really long time. He got sick because he had been eating all of the vegan food his parents made and had not been getting enough of the right nutrients from that alone. The doctor told his family that that sort of thing was pretty common in families where the parents are vegetarian/vegan. Now the boy eats meat and he is fine.

I agree with you that it is lame when people just do it for no reason.. But they soon fall off.

But that story about the boy. It's not because he is eating meat that he is fine, it's because his parent obviously didn't have a good diet for him.

And i could argue that story with the millions of kids that get sick and eat meat.

I guess that is true too, and it probably is because his parents weren't giving him a proper diet while being vegan. I don't think his parents are the sharpest knives in the drawer...

Haha, probably not.

I mean, you can't just quit meat/animal products without replacing them with something decent. You have to plan it well.
neenerbeenerx93
Yeah, that's like my aunt is vegetarian (I think it's because my grandma was such a poor cook when my aunt was growing up that she just couldn't even eat meat anymore, ha ha) and she eats tofurkey and stuff like that.
perverted_llama
QUOTE(neenerbeenerx93 @ Apr. 6, 2008. 04:57 PM) [snapback]891150[/snapback]

Yeah, that's like my aunt is vegetarian (I think it's because my grandma was such a poor cook when my aunt was growing up that she just couldn't even eat meat anymore, ha ha) and she eats tofurkey and stuff like that.

Haha, haven't heard of that. But at school i always eat vegetarian burgers and all my friends go.. "Hold on, you're a vegetarian, why are you eating meat??"

So yeah, you wouldn't even notice the diffrence that much.. besides being healthier laugh.gif
neenerbeenerx93
QUOTE(perverted_llama @ Apr. 6, 2008. 09:59 AM) [snapback]891152[/snapback]

QUOTE(neenerbeenerx93 @ Apr. 6, 2008. 04:57 PM) [snapback]891150[/snapback]

Yeah, that's like my aunt is vegetarian (I think it's because my grandma was such a poor cook when my aunt was growing up that she just couldn't even eat meat anymore, ha ha) and she eats tofurkey and stuff like that.

Haha, haven't heard of that. But at school i always eat vegetarian burgers and all my friends go.. "Hold on, you're a vegetarian, why are you eating meat??"

So yeah, you wouldn't even notice the diffrence that much.. besides being healthier laugh.gif


Yeah, I'm definitely okay with people being vegetarian, and applaud you for sticking with it smile.gif But I don't think I could ever do it- I love meat too much. That probably sounds horrible, but it's true. My family is good about things like that though, we buy cage-free eggs, organic milk, stuff like that. And I think our meat might be different than the norm, not sure though.
Sopheelovesyou
QUOTE
Yeah, I'm definitely okay with people being vegetarian, and applaud you for sticking with it smile.gif But I don't think I could ever do it- I love meat too much. That probably sounds horrible, but it's true. My family is good about things like that though, we buy cage-free eggs, organic milk, stuff like that. And I think our meat might be different than the norm, not sure though.

That's exactly how i feel. we get everything as healthy and cruel-free as possible, but we still eat meat.
perverted_llama
QUOTE(neenerbeenerx93 @ Apr. 6, 2008. 05:05 PM) [snapback]891160[/snapback]

QUOTE(perverted_llama @ Apr. 6, 2008. 09:59 AM) [snapback]891152[/snapback]

QUOTE(neenerbeenerx93 @ Apr. 6, 2008. 04:57 PM) [snapback]891150[/snapback]

Yeah, that's like my aunt is vegetarian (I think it's because my grandma was such a poor cook when my aunt was growing up that she just couldn't even eat meat anymore, ha ha) and she eats tofurkey and stuff like that.

Haha, haven't heard of that. But at school i always eat vegetarian burgers and all my friends go.. "Hold on, you're a vegetarian, why are you eating meat??"

So yeah, you wouldn't even notice the diffrence that much.. besides being healthier laugh.gif


Yeah, I'm definitely okay with people being vegetarian, and applaud you for sticking with it smile.gif But I don't think I could ever do it- I love meat too much. That probably sounds horrible, but it's true. My family is good about things like that though, we buy cage-free eggs, organic milk, stuff like that. And I think our meat might be different than the norm, not sure though.

Thanks smile.gif
I use to love meat. I would've walked a million miles for a bacon sandwhich..
But, i love animals way too much. Although i really miss meat, i just have to think of the animals.
HarryJohnson
ya even if u eat jello ur eatin a animal so i would just eat fish or something
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