Yes, I understand, some people do have clinical in-balances, but does anyone think anti-depressant meds are being over used or not used enough?

Over used. I don't like prescribed doctor types drugs. Lots of them are bad news.

I think they're being used on the wrong people. Like suburban housewives who are having an off day. Instead of the people who end up killing themselves because they couldn't get treatment.

Yeah, I agree, like 7 out of my 10 close friends are on meds, for no real reason. (I can say that because I know them like the back of my hand.) I just think everyone is gonna have ups and downs, and if you don't experience the downs for what they are worth, how will you ever know the true joys of the ups, you know?

Tom Cruise is hawwwt i wonder if katie would let me have sexy time with him???

Exactly, my mom got put on meds when she didn't have to pay for them. She says it was my fault. She's just a bitter old woman who's beauty has LONG faded. But I've got friend who've killed themselves, who really needed something to help. That and one hell of a lawyer to seperate them from their parents. But that's not the point.

haha, yet non prescribed drugs are good news?




If they are getting the drugs from a doctor and they are prescribed for them, they probably do have a reason. A lot of people on these types of things don't like letting other people know about it, and so just lead people to believe they take it for no real reason. If they aren't getting it from a doctor or a prescribtion that is for them, then you are probably right.

My take on it is that if you need them, you should take them, but only if you need them, don't abuse it.

No, but people who do un-needed Rx drugs don't think there is a problem, when there really is. Most depression medications are only meant to be taken a few months, just long enough to reverse the in-balance and correct the brains distribution of endorphins and junk, yet most people take them their entire lives. I say this because I was clinically depressed and they wanted to put me on pills. Personally I didn't think it was necessary so I refused, plus I hate being told what to do.

Hooray for rebellion! I wanted to be put on something after I found out my dad was a dealer. It was a bit much considering I had just left my alcoholic mother who hated me, and her potential rapist husband. But I'm better now, I have friends for once.

Well, first off, I've seen them on and off the pills, when they forget to bring them to vacas and stuff, and they are fine, I've know these kids since we were in Pre-K. Another reason I said they were prescribed wrongly, is in 4 of them on their FIRST visit to a psychiatrist, not mine, they were asked if they thought anti-depressents would help them and prescribed on the spot. I know a ton of kids who do that at my high school and then sell the pills.

These pills cause higher suicide rate in teens, something is off, personally I think it is in many doctors, not just around my area, lax attitude when prescribing drugs.




See, this isn't what I'm talking about at all, I'm talking about kids who the worst thing that's ever happened to them is their goldfish fluffy dying and who are just annoyed with their horomones and want happy pills.

I know that there are people, who have no reason or rhyme for being depressed they just are, hence the term cynical in-balance, and they need depression pills, I just think more should be done before they are prescribed.

Yes, it should. People have no boundries today, if that makes any sense.

Who said anything about non-prescribed drugs? Thats not the point of this, don't go off topic.

Just because a drug is prescribed doesn't mean its good. Do you know what kinda of medication is used? No, you don't. Lots of these prescribed medicines also have a street value, because really their just dirty drugs sold by doctors to give them a better image. You know that shit is amphetamines and other easy to abuse substances right?

My point was that I know you do drugs, and you seem to think they are good, but you don't like prescribed drugs. I just didn't think that made sense, I wanted you to elaborate on that.

I am aware that it is easy to abuse, but that doesn't me its npt possible to not abuse. If these drugs aren't abused they can be very helpful.

K, I'll elaborate.

I'm all for the use of certain drugs, cannabis, acid, mushrooms, those in particular. Other substances with care too.

See now cannabis, whether you believe it or not, poses no real health threat. Aside from the smoking part. Acid, mushrooms, same deal. They just make you trip, which can be dangerous in itself.

Now, prescribed drugs? Well, I know that many prescribed medicines are 'uppers' and very addictive. Lots of people get addicted to stuff that is prescribed, and they really aren't that healthy. Like someone mentioned before, the medicine is usually only supposed to be used temporarily, not in all cases but some. But their addictive drugs, so that makes the user more prone to drug abuse and addiction. Plus these aren't really healthy drugs. People on certain meds look like fucking tweakers. I used to take ritalin, so I know the side-effects. Ritalin is amphetamines, which is a similar drug to meth, which is a very hardcore drug.

I just don't agree with taking those types of drugs, especially for those reasons. I see it as more damaging than helpful.

EVERY drug has medical value, believe it or not. Hell, heroin suppresses coughing, but imagine if they used that in cough syrup! Actually the shit they use in cough medicine is a dangerous drug when abused...DXM, it makes ya' trip.

So, to reiterate, I think the drugs they use are unhealthy and shouldn't be used, there are other ways to treat these kinds of things. Medicine is an easy way out that can have major repercussions.

Point well made, I might actually paraphrase that the next time this discussion comes up, seeing as how none of my friends use smosh, I don't see where it would pose a problem.

lol, go for it, just make sure you know what your talking about.

prescribed drugs = hard street drugs that doctor says "its okay!"

Why on earth have you related a thread like this to celebrities?

Stay on subject, Jerk.

I think anti-depresants are like anything else, too much is dangerous. If you have a chemical imbalance then it's fine to take em, just like taking asprin for a headache. But, taking them just because your mommy didn't buy you a car on your sixteenth birthday is idiotic.

a couple summers ago i had deppression but i didn't know it, and i started losing a lot of weight, and it really was because i had lost the will to eat, i was at camp at the time, and i could just say "oh i just had a big meal, im not hungry" and it would go unnoticed that i wasnt eating. and the more weight i lost from not eating, the more depressed i got. well the less you eat, the smaller your stomach [the one where the food goes not your abs] gets and when it gets really small, it cant handle a lot of food, so when i did try to eat food, id just throw up
well it got to the point where i was nearly suicidal and really skinny and someone finally noticed...
i got diagnosed with depression, got put on meds, and i had to have my eating monitored...
while it wasn't fullblown anorexia, it still was pretty bad
so really if you think you have depression, don't be stupid like me and let it go undiagnosed for 3 months
it makes it harder to come out of it

The problem is the prescribe amounts are usually 'too much'. I mean, I knew a guy who sold pills of ritalin $5 per pill, because the amount people take is a big enough dosage to receive a high, its not like they put low amounts in to get only medicinal effects.

I read an interesting article too, some kid who took ritalin got addicted, after awhile he built up a tolerance and it wasn't doing much for him, so the kid learned how to cook meth...became a meth-head. Thats not the first case either.

Also, prescribed stuff shouldn't be compared to aspirin. Aspirin isn't used recreationally, so abuse isn't a factor, and overdose I would like to think is uncommon as its a high dosage, much more than needed to cure a headache. Theres a reason it has to be prescribed.

Yeah, I think they should evaluate each person and figure out the amount they need. It's different for each person. Thing is they won't take the time to do that.

It would make more sense if they did, the doctors would get more money with an alive patient than with a dead one right? And if they over prescribe, they still get the same amount of money, but there's danger to the person's health. So I really don't see why they don't, it seems like a win-win situation.

Last year my doctor told me I should go on anti-depressants because my stomach hurt all the time and I would skip school all the time. Depression was irrelevant to that. That makes me think that they are really over-prescribed because I was not depressed at all.

They don't over-prescribe. I'm sure that they have to put in a certain amount to obtain medicinal affects. Drugs are only as effective as the dose they are taken in. Too little might not be enough to get the desired effects, medically. Sometimes medicinal dosages are higher than the amount needed to actually get high, well, I can't say that for a fact but I'm sure its true...actually sometimes people take like half a pill of stuff like xannax so yeah, dose...

Plus, lots of these "happy pills" for depressed people are SUPPOSED to make you high, 'cause life is better high. Its forcing people into happiness.

Not saying I denounce all medical drug use, but uhh, I really don't think mental problems deserve drugs. I'm guessing that all these drugs are really doing, is taking that person out of reality, so they don't have to deal with their insane selves.

edit: when I said 'over-prescribe' I meant doseage wise, assuming 'pleasepostmybail' was talking about giving patients more of the active drug than needed.

I meant over prescribe as in too many people. Sorry if I come off as confusing, it makes sense in my head. But if we don't need to treat mental problems, what about the people with Schizophrenia, or things like that? That's a mental problem, that if untreated could cause the person to harm other people. And that's not a good thing.

I know someone with schizophrenia... I don't know if he's on any meds right now, but he's harmless.

Remember, schizophrenia is like "multiple personality" disorder kinda. My friend was tellin' me he has like 3 sides to him. Theres him, the bad him, and his "narrative entity" which ties the two together.

I really doubt he would ever randomly do anything to hurt someone for no reason. He's violent as fuck, but so are SOO many other people without disorders. I really doubt any meds would change him enough so that he wasn't a "harm" to himself or others.

I think people forget that drugs aren't the only answer. Lets see...schizophrenia has 3 treatments at the moment. Meds, therapy, dietary supplements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Treatment

But I'm not sure how I feel about antipyschotic meds...don't know much 'bout them, whether they're uppers or what.

I just think that the majority of prescribed drugs are evil drugs in disguise and if they can't be used for recreation, they shouldn't be used medicinally. I mean, it doesn't matter why you use a drug, it has the same effects.

I swear if my sister tries to interject on my ideas one more time...I'm sorry. My sister spent just under an hour convincing me that Schizophrenia was some extreme form of paranoia. I thought that it was more like multiple personality disorder. But nobody listens to me! Ok back on topic, I'm not really sure what you mean by if the drug can't be used recreationally, they shouldn't be used in medicine. Could you go into a little more detail?

ehh it all just freaks me out

Definitely over-used. Like... just for example... a hundred years ago, there weren't any anti-depressants and people learned to cope with their ordeals like real human beings.

I can understand when some circumstances need it, but, by just throwing them in the crowd, we're creating our own mental illnesses. People are starting to think that they need this stuff, when, in actuality, they're far from it.

I mean that drugs affect people the same way. If I smoked weed for fun, then someone else smokes it to reduce nausea for some illness they have, whats the difference? We still get the same effects. So to ban substances like amphetamines for recreational use is hypocritical, because when a doctor gives it to a patient it will have the same exact effects as someone using it for fun.

Basically, they deem certain drugs unsafe for us to use...BUT its okay when a doctor says otherwise?



Agreed. Society today is too spoon fed...which don't get me wrong I love, but certain times its ridiculous. Its like "Hey, not happy? Here have a pill!" and you can't just take a pill every time something goes wrong...well if you do then there will be major repercussions.

note: good first post, welcome to smosh.

yea i agree, although i do wish my parentals would have bought me a car 4 my sixteenth b-day unfortunately I don't have my license and im barely going for my permit. =[

stfu n00b, and panic sucks, hows that for off-topic? Yeah, don't post useless crap.

I agree with all of this, except that last part, because for some people the risks of drugs are worth it, like I know this has nothing to do with it but just for the sake of an example, chemotherapy shouldn't be done recreationally, but in cases with cancer patients, the benefits are worth the risks. I'm sure there are drugs in extreme cases of depression that are useful, but only in extreme cases. If that makes sense. . .

I also think, doctors get paid to prescribe drugs, hence all the free mechandise and trips, Richie's mom (he's a friend, she's a doctor) gets free stuff and even vacations paid for by drug companies looking to bribe her. This is in my opinion one of the main reasons so many people are needlessly on depression pills, but that's just my anti-theunitedstate'shealthcare theory.

Well I doubt anyone would wanna try chemo drugs for recreation, but if they did I don't see why they shouldn't be able to. If their that dumb... I'm more talking about drugs that ARE used recreationally, like painkillers for when someone breaks a bone. Just 'cause my bones not broke doesn't mean I wouldn't like some...and if they aren't harming someone with a broken bone, whats the big deal?

Agreed. I think pot and certain other illegal street drugs should be legalized before a lot Rx anti-depressents, and I think alcohol is worse than both, and yet it's socially acceptable and always will be. . .but I'm pretty sure that's another topic, lol.

The over-prescription is really quite dangerous, as many studies show that antidepressants can increase suicidal ideation and self-harm.

Why are you bumping year old threads?

I am bored of the current page 1 threads, so I started going through the forum in reverse-chronological order. The issues are still relevant...

I've been diagnosed with Manic Depression since 7th or 8th grade, during which time I have been prescribed;
Cymbalta,Paxil,most recently Zoloft, and various forms of lithium.
As of December of this year, I decided to stop taking my meds to see if it could possibly offer me some kind of relief for the side effects that they bring. I had many friends let me know that I was a completely different person while still on my meds than I was off. Some for the better,some for the worse.
Ultimately, I haven't taken anything since December but I still have the prescriptions filled when needed to make my mother worry less.
The truth of the matter is I haven't felt more alive, since I've been off the meds.


MIND YOU THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT THING FOR MOST PEOPLE.

As Mr. Mackey would say "Drugs are bad MmmKay"

But seriously, you should consult your Doctor and share any concerns or reservations about taking any medications to treat symptons relating to Clinical Depression. There may be other avenues to investigate further before taking any medication.

To answer the ultimate question of this thread, "Are you Tom Crusie or Brook Shields?" I would have to lean towards Brook Shield's position. I think Tom Crusie is somewhat extreme and not flexible in his position