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dbhman
Posted June 11, 2009.

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California officially has a drop-dead date now. State Controller John Chiang told Arnold Schwarzenegger last night that the state has 50 days before it hits a financial meltdown. So in that time, it either needs a bailout, massive budget cuts, or a brand new bubble (green tech, internet, real estate, something like that).

The tax revenue numbers are not at all good for the green shoots crowd:

Reuters: Underscoring the severity of California's cash crisis, Controller John Chiang, who has previously warned the state's government risks running out of cash without a budget deal, said revenues in May fell by $1.14 billon, or 17.7 percent, from a year earlier.

Additionally, the revenues of the government of the most populous U.S. state fell short of estimates in Schwarzenegger's budget plan by $827 million, Chiang said.

Of all three outcomes, we'd say the federal bailout is the most likely, sinse surely a California collapse would kill any recovery.

Yesterday, the Economist's Free Exchange blog argued that, indeed, California is too big to fail. And though we're deeply uncomfortable with the concept, under the general notion of that idea, we'd say they're probably right:

California is the world's eighth largest economy, and it contributes roughly an eighth of total American output (and drives much of the output in surrounding states). It's very difficult to imagine the European Union standing by and allowing a budget crisis to ravage the German economy, or the IMF doing nothing at all to assist a Russia or a Brazil as they melted down.

Were California forced to make significant cuts to its spending, the ramifications could be quite serious. School systems and universities would be endangered (which would threaten the state's long-term economic prospects). Increases in crime, homelessness, and serious poverty would encourage residents to leave. Service cuts could threaten key industries. In short, the recession could grow far more serious in the state than it already is. That would threaten recovery across the nation.


http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/artic...set=&ccode=
desparato
its a damn good thing i'm moving back to california next month


looks like electing a celebrity wasn't the best idea ever
dbhman
I wouldn't want to move to California under those circumstances. Especially with the option of a federal bailout, the feds would run wild and force the state to do it's bidding.
desparato
QUOTE (dbhman @ Jun. 16, 2009. 05:23 PM) *
I wouldn't want to move to California under those circumstances. Especially with the option of a federal bailout, the feds would run wild and force the state to do it's bidding.


yeah.

but there's beaches
dbhman
QUOTE (desparato @ Jun. 16, 2009. 06:25 PM) *
yeah.

but there's beaches

Good point. Ha
fredman555
QUOTE (desparato @ Jun. 16, 2009. 07:20 PM) *
its a damn good thing i'm moving back to california next month


looks like electing a celebrity wasn't the best idea ever

now thats not fair at all. when Pete wilson, the governor in 91 (a republican mind you) the state had a surplus of a few million dollars.

When joe graham was elected, and taxed everything thats when the candy began and it left cali in the sorry state it is in now. The governator simply inherited a bad situation.

Even though he didnt do anything to make it better (but made it worse) it isnt fair to say that its all his fault
3three3
I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area, and I have noticed a lot of changes that have happened. Many stores are now gone, some of my friends can't find jobs, cutting hours at work, more people have debt, and also many things are getting cheaper here which means that people are losing money. Ya its nice if you have a job, but a lot of people don't so it doesn't matter how cheap it is to a point.

Its going to be crazy when this economy just plummets head first into the jagged rocks below.
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