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Cirrow
I think this topic would be best suited here as subjects of a more controversial nature would fit into this sub-forum.

On the subject of the events that occurred on 9/11...

1. Why was molted and evaporated steel recovered from the debris of the twin towers? Jet fuel reaches a heat ceiling of 1600 degrees, office materials such as couches and paper reach a heat ceiling of 600 degrees. The Jet fuel burned up in 5-10 minutes leaving everything else to burn. The smoke coming from the fires was black, an indicator of an being oxygen starved. Fireman testimony stated that the fires were insignificant and containable. People jumped from the very holes the planes entered. So how were 3000 and 5000 degrees reached, respectively?

2. How did the towers collapse at the speed of gravity? Take a rock, drop it from the height of one of the towers and it will it the ground in 9.8 seconds. One of the world trade centers fell in 11 seconds. Not only does the top of the building exert enough force to fall hundreds of stories through 300,000 tons of steel, pulverizing concrete, but it does it at the speed of gravity.

3. How does a 20 foot wide plane fit into a 16 foot wide hole?

4. Why are there no markings from Flight 77's wing's on the Pentagon? The two planes that hit the world trade centers left a paper cutout of the themselves but the damage from a plane that hit the pentagon is merely a small hole.

5. Why is flight 93's wreckage spread over 8 miles?

6. Why did people report hearing military planes at the crash site of Flight 93?

7. Why did 503 people see flashes of light and hear explosions before, during, and after the twin towers fell?

8. What molten substance was leaking out of one of the world trade centers prior to it's collapse? (Popular Mechanics states that it was most likely aluminum, despite the visual differences. Steven E. Jones, a forerunner of the 9/11 truth movement, conducted a series of experiments in an attempt to duplicate the color given off by the molten substance using aluminum and anything that would have been found in the tower naturally. He was unable.)

9. Why did half of the witnesses who testified that they saw the plane before it hit the pentagon report a drastically different flight path than the one in the official story?

10. Why did one of the witnesses who claims he saw the plane before it hit the Pentagon imply that it was a cover up? Furthermore, why was his story full of holes?

11. Why are the dozen or so tapes that captured the plane hitting the Pentagon still being withheld? The only footage released was 3 frames and does not clearly show a plane.

12. Why was WTC7 reported to have collapsed before it collapsed?

13. Why were fireman telling people to back up from WTC7, stating that it's going to blow and that it's going to come down? Why did witnesses hear a countdown similar to a controlled demolition moments before the WTC7 fell?

14. What does Donadl Rumsfeld say "People who shot down the plane over Pennsylvania"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0...player_embedded

15. Why does George Bush even mention explosives in relation to 9/11? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USnxe7hxP4I...player_embedded

16. Is there any explanation for the evidence for thermate, a steel cutting composition, being found in various samples of the dust from the World Trade centers?
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/WTCHighTemp2.pdf

If anyone could help me out, that'd be great as these questions that seem to have no answers are quite disturbing to me.
Leo_Woof
Aliens.
Pookie_
Hi Cirrow, I admire your search for answers yourself.

There are quite some books on the subject of 9/11

For example this book that I recommend:
http://www.amazon.com/11-Ultimate-Truth-La...1368&sr=8-1

Maybe you can borrow it in the library.

There is also this article on the Pentagon:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/124500-E...id-a-Boeing-757

And this ''pentagon strike'' video is quite interesting as well:
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/

Good luck on your research!
Cirrow
Thanks Pookie. I already know the most probable answer to these questions. Since no one is replying, I'll go ahead and throw out some hypotheses. Anyone is welcome to present a better hypothesis or refute mine.

1. The World Trade Centers were destroyed using controlled demolitions.
2. Flight 93 was shot down by military planes.
3. The Pentagon was blown up using demolitions. The plane that allegedly crashed into the pentagon flew over it instead.

I encourage anyone to research this subject in an attempt to find your own answers or alternative theories. Or better yet, search for evidence that supports the official story and takes into account the anomolys I listed in my main post.
CradleofFilth
i encourage you to suck your own dick
Cirrow
I actually can do that, though I choose not too. Take a look at the size of a comcast remote next time you get the chance.

Do you have nothing to contribute to this discussion or is attempting to insult people you disagree with the best you can do? Looking forward to your reply. Oh and try not to get banned with all that penis talk.

Thanks for giving me an excuse to brag about my penis size btw.
Danny G Spin
QUOTE (Cirrow @ Nov. 17, 2009. 12:31 AM) *
I actually can do that, though I choose not too. Take a look at the size of a comcast remote next time you get the chance.

Do you have nothing to contribute to this discussion or is attempting to insult people you disagree with the best you can do? Looking forward to your reply. Oh and try not to get banned with all that penis talk.

Thanks for giving me an excuse to brag about my penis size btw.


The fact that you know you can means you have done it before.

Btw, you probably shouldn't be talking about your penis, while hoping someone else gets banned for talking about penis.
Cirrow
I never said I haven't done it, I said I choose not too. Hurts my back.

Anything to contribute to the discussion? These forums really kinda suck now.
Danny G Spin
I think that some planes got highjacked and flew into some buildings.

Better?
Cirrow
That doesn't contradict anything in my post. Perhaps you could elaborate, do you think that demolitions aided in the collapse of WTC1, 2 and 7?
adhams
i belive that the Amarican government was behind the hole thing in an effort to cover up their attack
billyme
QUOTE (Cirrow @ Nov. 14, 2009. 05:05 AM) *
I think this topic would be best suited here as subjects of a more controversial nature would fit into this sub-forum.

On the subject of the events that occurred on 9/11...

1. Why was molted and evaporated steel recovered from the debris of the twin towers? Jet fuel reaches a heat ceiling of 1600 degrees, office materials such as couches and paper reach a heat ceiling of 600 degrees. The Jet fuel burned up in 5-10 minutes leaving everything else to burn. The smoke coming from the fires was black, an indicator of an being oxygen starved. Fireman testimony stated that the fires were insignificant and containable. People jumped from the very holes the planes entered. So how were 3000 and 5000 degrees reached, respectively?

2. How did the towers collapse at the speed of gravity? Take a rock, drop it from the height of one of the towers and it will it the ground in 9.8 seconds. One of the world trade centers fell in 11 seconds. Not only does the top of the building exert enough force to fall hundreds of stories through 300,000 tons of steel, pulverizing concrete, but it does it at the speed of gravity.

3. How does a 20 foot wide plane fit into a 16 foot wide hole?

4. Why are there no markings from Flight 77's wing's on the Pentagon? The two planes that hit the world trade centers left a paper cutout of the themselves but the damage from a plane that hit the pentagon is merely a small hole.

5. Why is flight 93's wreckage spread over 8 miles?

6. Why did people report hearing military planes at the crash site of Flight 93?

7. Why did 503 people see flashes of light and hear explosions before, during, and after the twin towers fell?

8. What molten substance was leaking out of one of the world trade centers prior to it's collapse? (Popular Mechanics states that it was most likely aluminum, despite the visual differences. Steven E. Jones, a forerunner of the 9/11 truth movement, conducted a series of experiments in an attempt to duplicate the color given off by the molten substance using aluminum and anything that would have been found in the tower naturally. He was unable.)

9. Why did half of the witnesses who testified that they saw the plane before it hit the pentagon report a drastically different flight path than the one in the official story?

10. Why did one of the witnesses who claims he saw the plane before it hit the Pentagon imply that it was a cover up? Furthermore, why was his story full of holes?

11. Why are the dozen or so tapes that captured the plane hitting the Pentagon still being withheld? The only footage released was 3 frames and does not clearly show a plane.

12. Why was WTC7 reported to have collapsed before it collapsed?

13. Why were fireman telling people to back up from WTC7, stating that it's going to blow and that it's going to come down? Why did witnesses hear a countdown similar to a controlled demolition moments before the WTC7 fell?

14. What does Donadl Rumsfeld say "People who shot down the plane over Pennsylvania"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0...player_embedded

15. Why does George Bush even mention explosives in relation to 9/11? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USnxe7hxP4I...player_embedded

16. Is there any explanation for the evidence for thermate, a steel cutting composition, being found in various samples of the dust from the World Trade centers?
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/WTCHighTemp2.pdf

If anyone could help me out, that'd be great as these questions that seem to have no answers are quite disturbing to me.


WOW... that's pretty impressive. This wouldn't be my area of speciality, especially with all the memorization involved, but have you double-checked your sources? Perhaps some of the information (i.e. plane/hole size, time it took to hit the ground) may be slightly off?

As far as #2 goes, again, 9/11 isn't my speciality so I don't know how exactly the planes hit, but perhaps it took that 1.2 seconds for all the supports for the top of the building to break apart?
iLoveSmosh97
i don't know what happened on 9/11...........i just know that it killed a lot of people and the people behind it better die mad.gif hopefully nothing like that will never happen again ohmy.gif
Cirrow
bump
omgdrppr
Building 7 has always seemed sketchy to me.

My favorite 9/11 conspiracy theory is that the government made up the 9/11 conspiracy theories to make them seem all-powerful. 2+2=5
Ch3es3gI665
i heard that fires spread to building 7 and caused it to fall.
Killaz6101
I was pretty young when this happened, like I nearly don't remember, just that two planes destroyed the twin towers. And don't call me stupid or "r-tarted" like in the Hangover, but I never found if the number you dial 9-1-1 was named after the date of the incident. I asked people, but some would say the number existed before the incident, others say it was made after the terrorist attack.

Which one is true?
Leo_Woof
^ lol
FERRARI7
QUOTE (Killaz6101 @ Jan. 16, 2010. 06:37 PM) *
And don't call me stupid or "r-tarted" like in the Hangover, but I never found if the number you dial 9-1-1 was named after the date of the incident. I asked people, but some would say the number existed before the incident, others say it was made after the terrorist attack.

Which one is true?


I used to ask my sister and cousins that too

I think it was named after that,or the terriorists planned it like that,or it was just a coincedience
cheerios4u98
9-1-1 has been around forever
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