Personally I wish we had less gun control. Discuss.

I think that our gun laws need to be revamped across the US, When I did my senor project on this topic I found out that the problem is the background check system for each state in the US, Some states run you only off of their own state for background checks and some states only run you off of federal background systems. The two never give each other vital information and sometimes people get guns who shouldnt. Another problem was something Bill Clinton did, he sealed all medical records making it impossible for people to be shown on their mental history. Unless they have done anything to show their disease. Our current gun laws in the state of Washington are the best in the US, but could be better. I also thing that pistols should be allowed to be carried by 18 year olds who can pass background checks, this would make it easier for upstanding citizens like myself to own pistols without the worry of laws. Which would open up better paying jobs to young adults, armed security and police. I think that medicals records should not be sealed to ensure the wrong people dont get guns. A good example of the wrong person getting a gun (virginia tech shooter). The gun laws work for the most part, just a few things need to have a facelift.

Guns for everybody. No need for background checks. No need for anything like that. If somebody wants a gun, they should be able to get a gun, no questions asked. No waiting, no nothing.

So then we will have another 100 Virginia Tech Incidents all over the US, im so happy with ur ignorance.

You, sir, are the one who is ignorant to the uselessness of these laws, among their other flaws.

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To ryan3wolf:
Not necessarily, because then someone else would have a gun to stop the shooter.

To Latino heat:
The laws ARE useless. Because people would still get guns illegaly. So if you let them buy one from a gun shop and then they would have their name registered, they could trace the bullet to the criminal.

Exactly. Thank you.

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Quoting Chris Rock, "F*ck gun control, what we need is bullet control!... $5k per each bullet."


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i think people who have a license should be able to get a gun. but if you dont have a liscense, no gun.

and getting a license should be more complex.

The biggest problem is that having or selling illegal firearms is not that harsh of a crime. Has anyone noted that situations like Virginia Tech and Columbine have happened in weapon free zones? Why dont we allow the school security to have firearms? Its really sad when Security on campus doesnt even have guns, alot of help they will be. And please someone explain why their is something called an immigrant firearms license? Should everyone who comes into our country who doesnt pay taxes and doesnt become a US citizen have the right to have a firearm? I thought the second amendment was for US citizens only. Also People with clear mental history should not be able to get firearms and people should be informed about their history, im tired of this PC bullshit that we cant expose peoples problems or they might get offended. Fuck them I dont want to die because someone failed to let me know they are a bipolar type of person.

I think gun control should be a state issue. What level of gun control should depend on the state. I know here in California where it is just a lot of urban sprawl we should have tighter gun control. But in other states where it is more open the gun control can be more lax.

Hahaha, but isn't that the case with America, everyone has to have a gun cause everyone else does haha I guess I agree with Latino Heat, the laws are obviously useless in their present state.

I don't understand how you guys support less control over guns. From right here it sounds like any person in the US can get a gun and I don't understand how that doesn't worry you. I would be scared to go out on the street if i knew that I or anyone else could just go into a shop get a gun and enjoy.

In America, we have a thing called the second amendment. It guarantees us the ability to get a gun. And if the law abiding citizens follow all these gun control laws, then people who get the guns illegally and don't follow the laws will be harder to stop.

Why would it be harder to stop the illegal ones if some actually go by the law?
And who made up this second amendment and when?

It's harder because the laws make it hard to get a gun legally. So less people have them. Then the people who get them illegally won't have any immediate opposition.

The second amendment is from the bill of rights that was written around 1786.

Ok, that's what I thought. I think maybe it's time to reconsider this amendment. After all 221 years have passed since, and the world has changed drastically.

But I agree with you that it becomes a problem when someone has purchased a gun illegally and attacks a defenseless innocent citizen. So I guess what someone else said about purchasing records is the best idea to catch the criminals, though after the crime is done.. Which sucks.

You cannot take away peoples' ability to protect themselves. The reason psycho's can buy weapons is because the federal government does not allow background checks into medical history for somebody purchasing a gun.

Look what Hitler did. He took away peoples rights to bear arms (protect themselves), and then all of the sudden he started controlling what people watched, read, and what people could say. There would be more violence in the U.S. if heavier gun control was to be enforced.

Make my day, Jew.

Gunz 4 all.

i like it how it is, i dont think we should just let ppl buy a gun unless they have a licens, and that 3day waiting period thingy, but if you make it to where just normal ppl cant buy a gun to go hunting or w.e. they also dont have protection against the ppl who break laws newaz, i mean the ppl that actwaly use guns 4 bad, they dont care bout the law, so how would taking guns away 4rm ppl who do follow the law solve nething?

I say, that once your 18, you can just walk into a grocery store and by a 9mm right there.

I say that pothead should learn how to type or get a translator since I have no idea what language he is trying to type in.

I'm sure if we could understand what you were saying, we wouldn't care anyway.

I think that poeple should only have hunting firearms with a license, and there should be possesion of assault wepons and handguns.

And I say, you shouldn't.

Can you think of the chaos that would cause, by giving any old hobo a rights to a gun?

Seriously, they should make it so you have to be at least 19...

Now imagine if every person had a gun. Every person. There would be no crimes that went unpunished. A woman gets robbed in New York City and gets away with it because nobody wants to get involved in trouble. Think about that situation now if every citizen had a gun.

The Constitution applies to EVERYONE


That would change...

That's one of the best examples I've heard in a long time.

More gun control.
This is just an example of why i think there should be more gun control. America is a country that has over 11,000 gun related homicides a year.
Canada has under a 1000 gun-related homicides a year.
Now could that difference be beacuse some states in America have laws that enable you to be aloud to carry around a concealed weapons, when
in canada there is a law that prohibits you to carry a concealed weapon?

Heres another one:

Imagine if everyone had guns. Now imagine the Virgina Tech massacre happening.

Step 1: Killer shoots innocent kid with pistol, and the kid might live
Step 2: Killer gets shot, and killed, by about 10 different kids protecting themselves, and their friends

Its possible that the virginia tech incident could have been avoided under those circumstances, however the problem is that there is a law prohibiting any medical records from being released to the public, police or school officials, thanks to Bill Clinton. Background checks should be more thorough and then 18 year olds should get guns. Forget the law pertaining to 18 yr olds not getting pistols.

I just had to bring this back to the front page seeing as how we talked about this issue in University 101 today.

I am for and against gun control at the same time. I, my family, and the majority of southerners are avid hunters who have been around guns our whole lives. Whether it be shotguns, hunting rifles, or squirrel pistols, its normalized here. Why should law-abiding citizens like us have to go through the same channels to purchase a hunting rifle as someon who is purchasing a handgun? They are obviously not going to kill deer with a handgun, so they must be using it for some other purpose, illegal or otherwise.

On the other hand, I do think that assault weapons should have extremely strict availability. Only those who are trained in the use of an assualt weapon, such as military personnel or collectors, should have access to these extremely deadly weapons. As for the illegal acquirement of these weapons, I really don't know how much we can do to prevent this. Criminals will always find a way. But, ordinary citizens should not be treated like criminals when legally purchasing a firearm.

it doesnt matter about background checks criminals are still going to get guns and if they are illegal then that would just bring more crime along with it....so im against gun control

People are always going to be fighting about there being more guns or less guns. I do not believe anything. You do not have to believe you want more or less. Guns protect yet they kill. Guns can go both sides and we can discuss it on and on how it is good and bad. Guns is one topic people will be always fighting about. I never really thought about guns and I never really want to unless I have to.

Cho (the shooter at Virginia Tech) purchased his guns legally. He killed 32 people and then himself, but I'm glad we could get ballistics done to find out who did it! That is a terrible argument.

"But if the other students had guns they could have protected themselves!" So we should all just walk around killing eachother? Sounds great! Someone is stealing your purse or wallet? Shoot him in the back! Why be the one getting killed, when you can be the one killing?

You people need to back up your arguments and provide evidence.

Personally, having a friend who just got shot and killed I'm not (nor have I ever been) too keen on lax gun laws. I guess I just don't like the idea of a bunch of people shooting each other.

People running around with guns everywhere is not a good thing. Background checks need to be performed, but tight gun control leads to this formula:

Tight Gun Control = Citizens can't get guns + criminals don't give a freaking crap about gun laws so they get guns anyways + criminal's being armed + citizens not being armed = Death of citizens.

Ok, so it wasn't a very good formula, but it sort of illustrates my point.

Criminals are going to get guns. They don't give a crap about laws. They're criminals.

Look at Finland. Every man is required to own and know how to operate a firearm. I believe they have the third smallest murder rate per population ratio of all countries.

Coincidence? I think not. What kind of criminal is going to attempt to murder someone who owns and knows how to accurately shoot a firearm?

First of all, who needs a gun? The US Constitution dates back to hundreds years ago and I think today nobody except police officers and the military should own a gun. If you need a gun to defend(?) yourself, you have serious problems or have a paranoiac personality disorder. I live in Canada and I feel safe, because gun laws are stricter.

Guns can be a hobby to people.To others,they go to the shooting range,others,collect them.And ofcourse there are the hunters.

im okay with guns except baby skull sinking bullets =D

Well, registered handguns are fine, but assault weapons are unneeded. you've got a gun, why do you need an assault weapon?

I know someone who has a light machine gun...
And my friends dad is activating a submachine gun.

It would be so cool to own a Thompson.

anyone ever read the book "Give a Boy a Gun"? (I forget the author..)
story about gun control and how easy some kids can get them. its fictional, but about stuff that happens in real life. about these two kids who have always been hated at their school for being different, then they finally get back at them by getting guns and shooting people at a school dance. they didnt kill anyone but one kid killed himself.


true, and I agree. Those people should be able to have guns available to them, but there needs to be more done about random killers or whatever easily getting guns.

And there's also the fact that the number one criminal deterrent is the sound of a shotgun being cocked.

Ya, but you don't NEED it, guns aren't supposed to be owned just to be looked at, they offer protection, and help fight wars, they're not some pretty toy you should just go and play with.

So you're saying that firing a round with a light machine gun is not fun?
And you say you don't need them,but that they are for protection and wars.So you do need them.So why not have some fun once in a while since there is no war.

And no I don't NEED a Thompson,but it still would look great in the living room wall...

No, I said you don't need assault weapons, owning a pistol is fine by me, but assault weapons are pushing it, and I said YOU don't need an assault weapon unless of course your typing everything you said from a PC in iraq, assault weapons should only be used for wars. pistols are just as fun to fire as a light machine gun. You've already got a toy, why would you want a bigger one.

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and it should be any type of gun too if i want an ak-47 i should be able get whenever pay the money and drive home with it

gun controll is the worst think that could ever happen to a country

heres a good quote

1935 will go down is histroy!!! as a civilized socity with 100% gun controll others will follow in out foot steps in the future

that was said by ADOLF HITLER
http://www.mchenryidpa.com/special/pro-gun/page.html look at these posters

I completley agree i think they should only make back round checks if your not from this country. and no im not racist but ive had family members kidnapped before